Welcome Hamr Fan Klub! Oh, by the way, "GET A LIFE!"

 

NEW INFO!!
You should AVOID certain
eBay LOSER AND & FlipFlop IDs:

e-mail for full list if you give a darn
otherwise, buyer beware . . . whatever
(Oh yeah, I rarely check the above e-mail so
it may be months before I reply with list.)

To play it safe at eBay when buying guitars
DO NOT EVER buy an eBay-offered Hamer.
Buy them in store, only after really checking them out first.
Hamers I was sold were misreperesented as quality by Hamer Fan Club seller
and the guitar-shaped object was in essence a log with strings. 
I'd suggest you buy a Lyon from Target or a First Act
from Wal-Mart before wasting your loot on a Hamer off eBay.


 

JULY 2007 UPDATE:
eBay ID --> 79stickman : 
Putz of the worst type, cocky arrogant, lies in sale
about item. When told he is incorrectly listing item
as something it clearly is NOT according to manufacturer
specs -- he cusses out eBay member trying to help
protect other bidders. AVOID this cat! Add to sellers
to bypass when shopping for gear, etc. Reported to eBay.
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SEPT 2006 UPDATE:
LOSER EBAY ID "instantnameplate_com" SELLS
BEAT-UP, DIRTY CRAP, SHIPS SLOWWWW, NO PEANUTS IN
BOX OR BUBBLE-WRAP SHIPPING ELECTRONICS! THIS FOOL
HAD TO BE DEALT WITH VIA EBAY DISPUTE CONSOLE SO
HE WOULD FINALLY SHIP! I GAVE TRUE BUT NEGATIVE
FEEDBACK AND THOUGH I FILLED MY PART OF BARGAIN
WITH PAYMENT SENT SAME DAY -- THIS PUTZ NEG'S MY
FEEDBACK AS REVENGE FOR HIS LOUSY SERVICE. AVOID!
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June 2006 update:
I have had several people contact me about ebay
ID "josie29" in attempts to get help as eBay is not
really working enough to help them see getting their
item or getting a refund. For all you folks needing
more help from me about the "josie29" woes & blues,
please see info below:
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This Joe Hazelbaker is so aloof and apathetic about his
eBay biz it is deplorable. He is a lawyer and owns a store
in Ohio called Wild Mercantile (740) 594-5198. This is
where he has employees ship from. He claims his eBay biz
and actual store are unrelated, (a lie), as his store
employees informed me otherwise. Hazelbaker sends a list
to them of what and where to ship items. If he fails to
send list, loses your name, etc or doesn't have item in
stock -- you are screwed. He also rarely answers e-mail
to this: joseph@hazebaker.info His website is here:
http://www.hazelbaker.info & his phone is: 740-590-8020
Beware of this cat as he is deceptive, likes to stall on
deliveries, sells BEFORE he gets stuff in stock so he orders
AFTER you win. He is a pain and arrogant as well. You have
to be a cyberbull dog with him. REPORT HIM ASAP to eBay and
THEN you will get the ball rolling. If he tries to cancel
and refund -- it is because he is LAZY and wants you to go
away. But since you have already paid -- what guarantee do
you have of seeing your $$$? Good luck! And if he asks how
ya found him, feel free to tell him jazz_fusion_guy sent ya!

May 2006 update: 
AVOID AT ALL COSTS eBay ID "josie29"
operating as Clear Creek Outfitters. He refuses to
answer e-mails, voice-mails, refuses to reply to eBay's
Dispute resolution, blames SPAM filters, blames his
store employees and generally avoids the fact that when
he screws up -- he REALLY screws up bad! So if you want
the hassles, the slow or no shipping of items you pay for,
and even having your ordered cancelled way late on you --
by all means "buy-it-now" with Joe Hazelbaker aka josie29
and "get-it-late". He is a store owner that is too-absent,
not with it, and too busy pushing his lawyer services to
adequately handle his eBay duties. And will eBay do anything?
Nope, he is a power seller and makes them too much money,
so the little guy like you and I get burned. Pathetic waste!


updated: 02/05/2006

Seller to avoid! THIS GUY IS TROUBLE:
eBay ID everydaysource -- and why?
I got burned by everdaysource on bad data cables for cell phones.
He intentionally lists models as being compatible but they are not.
He knows this. I have emailed Eugene Wong about his slick rip-off but
with no reply. I advise you to file an item not as described claim
against him with eBay dispute resolution if this happened to you.
I am contacting everyone Wong has ripped off to do this.
eBay won't give a darn about my complaint I sent but if hundreds
sing the same song about Wong defrauding eBay users then maybe
eBay will hassle him enough to stop his scam. 
Use this URL to report WONG: 
http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html
 Thanks!
 

Why to avoid PayPal at ALL costs

Read on as to what PayPal really is all about and
why you need to CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT NOW!!

New INFO JUST IN!:
Thursday, 16-Aug-2007 08:57:39 PDT
 Post by former PayPal employee #2
Rights Reserved, NoPayPal.com/PayPalSucks.com    

As an ex-employee of paypal I understand the frustration
this company has put you through. Most of the employees
who knew what they were doing have left the company because
of their practices. I will check these forums when I can and
assist people including giving specific complete names, work
numbers, and email addresses of people to contact. For years
PayPal has told their employees not to give out their last
names. This is done simply to make it more difficult for you
to communicate properly with the company and to make it more
difficult for you to seek restitution against an individual. 

The company does not make decisions on your accounts. All
decisions are made by one person on the Omaha fraud team.
The decision to lift the limited access on your account comes
from one person in resolution services. If someone on the
fraud team makes a quote "no appeals" you are done. The
resolution services team will not even try to lift the
limited access on your account but will continue to tell
you that you need to fax in documentation. 

If you already have a limited access account and want to
continue to use PayPal, although I don't know why, you need
to clear all of your cookies and cache and change your IP.
Do not use anonymizer or other public anonymous IP's since
they have a team that just reviews those logins. Your best
bet is to use AOL dial up. Also all bank accounts on your
account will be inactive. If you add them to your new account
 it immediately will be flagged and shortly will also have a
limited access. Contact your bank if your account is placed
on limited access and report your cards and bank accounts as
lost stolen. This does 2 things. First, PayPal will not be able
to debit funds from your bank account to get back any recent
ach transactions. They also may attempt to debit your account
if your PayPal accounts fall negative. Second, this allows you
to continue banking at the same location but have a new debit
card and bank account numbers. 

The fraud team does use some tools that show a percentage
of like information on 2 or more accounts. For instance if
you have the same name one 2 accounts with the same address
they will find your other account. Make certain that you use
a new address, even a po box works. If you have a PO box try
to get one with a different zip code, state and city. The tools
they use compare the following, name, social security number,
address, bank accounts, credit cards, auction id's, bank routing
numbers. These also include things you attempted to add but were
unsuccessful. Also if you believe you removed a bank, address,
or credit card from your first account you are wrong. Members of
the fraud team still see that information and will use it to 
link your other accounts. 

The other advice I have for everyone who uses PayPal is to get
your money out as soon as possible. If you are going to continue
to use PayPal call them at the number above and request to have
a feature called Auto Sweep turned on. This is a feature that
they do not advertise but is available. This takes all the money
in your account at the end of the day and automatically withdrawals
it to your bank account. You need to give them your Social Security
Number and also lift your withdrawal limit before they will allow
this. When you call, if the rep does not know what you are talking
about ask them to transfer you to a professional or look in the
knowledge base under auto sweep. 

Another FYI do not withdrawal more than $2500.00 in a 24 hour period
or over a weekend. You may hit the ques and invite someone to place
a limited access on your account. If you withdrawal more than
$5000.00 in a 24 period you will also hit a que and they will look
at your account. There are also another 50-100 ques that can flag
your account. I will not go into detail since they are in place to
protect consumers and actually work. 

If any of you have had problems with a single employee please post
their name and what department they are in and I will respond with
their full name and phone number if know them. If you have to contact
a person directly at PayPal most employees email addresses are their
first initial last name @paypal.com. 

One other thing, when you try to send a payment via credit card
and you are not given that option it is because of a thing called
the risk model. Usually it is a high risk transaction and you or
the seller have entered some type of fraud que. 

I hope this information helps each and every one of you. 

Originally posted http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3123&fid=6&block=0 

Rights Reserved, NoPayPal.com/PayPalSucks.com. 
Limited quoting and copying of this story is allowed,
provided a link back to this page or site is prominently provided. 
============================
 
I NEVER WILL USE PayPal to buy or sell as I have
done lengthy weeks of research and abused-user
interviews as a long-time seller and PayPal is
very BAD NEWs!! See my auctions as I warn folks
everywhere on eBay against PayPal. eBay hates it
but they let me do so anyway.

Trust me on this issue or look here (as you will be shocked):

http://www.paypalsucks.com/
http://www.paypalwarning.com/
http://www.aboutpaypal.org/
http://www.ygoodman.com/paypal.asp

Quotes from above good info websites:
======================================
PayPal Provides you with a PayPal Account and not a Real Merchant Account. Your
money is deposited into a PayPal account, which PayPal Controls, rather than
your own bank account. If PayPal even wonders for a second about the validity
 of a transaction, they can Freeze Your PayPal Account Immediately and suck all
your money out. They can even pull your money directly out of your personal
bank account, many times without even a phone call or e-mail. If you think
PayPal treated you unfairly and want to dispute their decision, You Will Be At
Their Mercy as PayPal plays the role of the Investigator, Judge, Jury and
Executioner in all issues regarding your account. (You agreed to all of this,
when you signed up.)

Sound fair? We don't think so.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How Does PayPal Make Money With My Money?

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, there are approx. 100,000 complaints
outstanding at PayPal (Are any of these yours?). In many instances disputes can
run on for months leaving people frustrated and out of pocket as they are
unable to access their accounts. So what happens to the millions of dollars
 tied up in frozen accounts and disputes? Well, here is a clip from the San
Francisco Chronicle that basically sums it up:

U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel of San Jose refused to dismiss a lawsuit that
seeks class-action status on behalf of thousands of PayPal customers
 nationwide. A common allegation is that the company brushes off or stalls
 customer grievances for months and meanwhile freezes the customer's account
and pockets the interest (So that's how they make their money!). No wonder they
freeze so many accounts!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
General Warning and Disclaimer
The complaints I get fall into three categories:
1 - People who followed Paypal's rules and got screwed anyway. It is to these
people that I dedicate this page. This includes people who shipped to the
confirmed address using delivery confirmation, only to be told that DC doesn't
show the address so it is invalid even though PP's site specifically mentions
that this is acceptable proof. It includes people who paid for signature
confirmation but the package was signed by a different person at that address
so they were told "tough luck." I know of no service that will deliver a
 package only to the specific person and not that person's spouse or child.
Other victims are: people who were charged back for "goods not as described"
when PP claims they don't get involved in such disputes, people who had their
accounts frozen because a third party cheated someone else and then made a
purchase with the money, people whose account were frozen because PP decided
they were tied to some other fraudulent account with a similar e-mail ID, or
people who had their accounts frozen without even a clear explanation.

2 - People who didn't follow the rules but were tricked into taking what
appeared to be a legitimate risk. For example, they shipped a low value item to
 a work address or they shipped to an unverified account, then the transaction
was charged back for no valid reason. All I can say to these people is the
rules exist for a reason. Break them at your own risk.

3 - People who take wild risks, expecting someone else to pay the cost of their
stupidity. Despite my problems with the way PP sometimes handles things, they
do have some rules which are indisputable. Sellers must have some proof of
 delivery to the confirmed address. If they ship an expensive item, they must
have signature delivery. If they ship to a work address, or try to save a few
bucks by not getting delivery confirmation; if they sell intangible items like
 e-gold, they can expect problems. If someone buys an expensive item from a
 seller in Romania with low ratings and a spanking new PP account, they
shouldn't expect PP to shoulder the cost of the risk they took. There ain't no
such thing as a free lunch, just like PP is not "always free forever."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
More info here (class action lawsuit against them!): 

Preliminary PayPal Class Action Lawsuit Settlement

Also be sure to read this thread as it will answer
some common questions. 

First and foremost, PayPal has agreed to disburse
$5.1 million that it has been holding in frozen
accounts that had gone over the 180 days time period.
They started doing this last year. This $5.1 million
is not part of the $9.25 million. This $5.1 million
is customers money who had a right to have it returned
to them, but PayPal was holding it because the customers
(according to PayPal) didn't put in a request for it.
I had no idea that if your account was limited for 180
days, that you had to then put in a request for your
check of remaining funds. I don't think anyone knew
this. (This is probably because PayPal didn't tell anyone.)
PayPal would only send you a check if you initiated the
request after the 180 days had elapsed! Those $5.1 million
dollars would have still been in PayPal's account
today if not for this lawsuit! If you have an account
restricted for 180 and have not received your remaining
balance, you should be able to get your money right now. 

Everyone who joined PayPal from Oct 1999 to Jan 2004 is
a member and eligible to put in a claim.

You will be in one of 3 claim categories. You can't put
in a claim for more than 1 category.

The first is known as the "statutory claim" and is the
lowest claim category. This category has a fund of
$1 million. Thus $1 million divided by 30,000,000 members
and everyone gets $0.03. However, not everyone will
put in a claim to this category. This fund comes from
the Federal EFTA (electronic fund transfer act). 
This act has set by law a max. recovery of $500,000.
Girard, Gibbs, & De Bartolomeeo (hereafter "the lawyers")
were able to convince PayPal to make it $1,000,000. This
was basically a slam dunk case and PayPal knew it. The
only problem was the government capped the max amount
 that could be recovered to $500,000. There was a chance
 to make it up to $6,000,000, however, it was an unknown
 risk, as a judge might not see it that way. This is
basically the thing that PayPal violated when it did
not take people's reports over the phone, did not provide
a timely response, did not provide written documents,
deleted customers emails, do not provide a phone number,
etc. (more on this later.) Note: If the government had
not put a cap on the transgressions of the EFTA, this
 lawsuit would have had a totally different ending
(for the better.) Don't blame me, the lawyers or anyone
else. This was your federal legislators fault.

The next category is the "short form." This is for those
 people who lost a small amount of money or would just
 like to get it over. If you put in claim on the short form,
you will get $50. HOWEVER, due to the number of scammers
who have tried to get in on this lawsuit, these claims
 will be inspected for fraud. They will be inspected by
a former employee of PayPal who has been hired by the
lawyers to do this job. (A real good egg.) Basically it
means if you had a problem with PayPal and you are not a
scammer, you give you name, address, etc... and you get $50.
This claim has approx. $2million, however it has some
adjustments that can be made.

The next category is the "long form." This is for those
 people who lost more than $50. The "long form" is also
inspected for fraudsters. Those who are NOT fraudsters
will have their claim reviewed by an appointee of the
court. Basically this is going to be just like a small
claims case. The more evidence you have to support your
case, the better you will fair. If you have no evidence,
you might as well put in for the short form. If on the
other hand you have a real case, you put in your case
and if it's supported you should do well. This claim
also has approx. $2million, and again it has some
adjustments that can be made.

A word about the fraudsters. I don't think any of you
know just how bad this problem is. I'll bet people at
yowcow, moneybookers, stormpay, citibank, yahoopaydirect,
et al, know. These fraudsters are true evil and a bane
for all of us. These scum bags are the ones not only
responsible for so many of your and PayPal's problems,
but they are also the people that almost sunk this lawsuit.
Some of these people were so bold as to actually put in
a sworn claim to the lawyers as a "victim" of PayPal.
However when we got down to brass tacks, their cases fell
apart and it turned out they were liars and theives. They
caused a lot of damage to this case. The fact of the matter
is, we are fortunate there were EFTA violations and other
transgressions by PayPal. If not, this case would have been
tossed out due to their abuse.

Additionally, anyone who does not want to settle their
case with PayPal using this proposed settlement can opt
out and get their own lawyer to go after PayPal. (More on
this later in a separate thread.) No one is forced to accept
this settlement. Also, this settlement is to be reviewed
by the judge and everyone of you has the right to give your
opinion on the settlement. If you think it's good, you
can tell the court to approve it. If you think it's useless,
you can tell them that. The judge will weigh all the input
he has. Additionally if the number of claims exceeds the
amounts of money available by a large amount, the judge
could reject this settlement and send it back for
renegotiation. (If the number of claims exceeds the
available funds by a smaller amount, then everyone will
be adjusted down by an appropriate amount. ie, Class 1
might get $0.02 and Class 2 (the short form) might get
$35 instead of $50, etc.

Additionally PayPal has agreed to several changes in how
 it does business to come into line with what that EFTA requires.

1. PayPal will now provide a phone number that you can
call to submit a problem/complaint, and PayPal must take
that complaint on the phone and start an investigation. 

2. If PayPal can't complete that investigation w/in 10 days,
they have to provisionally credit your account. (Subject
to some details like you providing the information PayPal
requests to do their investigation.)

3. PayPal will send regular statements to it's customers.
I worry a little about this due to all the phishing
problems... I don't think anyone will even bother reading
 any email from PayPal... but that's what they agreed to.

4. Paypal will give you 21 days notice on changes to their
ToS. You can opt out of this notification.

5. PayPal will provide written documentation of account
limited for over 45 days showing why and what information
they have as to the outcome of their investigation. There
are some limitations to this one as well... more later.


    

        

        

        
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